Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Yes, We'll Get Right On That

Michael Ledeen at The Corner:

[A]sk yourself what's the difference between [Russia's incursion into Georgia] and the annexation of the Sudetenland? Including the paralysis of the so-called Western World in the face of deliberate, systematic military conquest.

And of course the silence of the Left is notable, since they so often pose as defenders of peace. Once again it turns out that American military action is judged evil, while our enemies can do the same without a word of protest. Where's Code Pink? Where's Ron Paul, for that matter...

What's the difference between our invasion of a sovereign nation and continuing to occupy it for 6 years and the annexation of the Sudetenland? Including the paralysis of the so-called Western World in the face of deliberate, systematic military conquest.

Anywayz, what does Ledeen want from Code Pink exactly? A stern blog post demanding Russia withdraw? Pinking the EU as it tries to negotiate an end to the crisis? Medea to immediately flight to Tblisi to act as a human shield?

Once again, ignorance of what the "peace movement" is all about and the intense desire of the Right to cry 'hypocrisy' in ad hominem attacks rear their ugly heads. Pinkers certainly are defenders of peace as their actions have shown time and again.

Newsflash to Ledeen and all the other critics of Code Pink: we are not the sole arbiters of peace, nor must we act or even have an opinion when ever a sparrow falls in every part of the globe. Just as when Saddam's crimes ("AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!") were raised as the casus belli in our own illegal invasion, our demesne is not necessarily foreign regimes (note I didn't say "necessarily not").

Our charge is to change the one government over which we have inherent responsibilty. Ours. So we will continue to work for peace by trying to extricate ourselves from the moral and military quagmire in Iraq, trying to prevent our leaders from attacking yet another sovereign nation, and trying to dismantle the military industrial complex in our own damned country.

Regardless, it required Bush a few days to mobilize a response to the crisis so don't you think it might take a non-centralized, grassroots organization some time to figure things out? That said, I suspect that despite the usual lack of media coverage of Code Pink, local individuals and the group itself might be joining Georgians in San Francisco, New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, or even London.

If Michael Ledeen and his ilk are really interested in world peace and working to prevent future wars like that between Russia and Georgia, they are more than welcome to join us in putting our own house in order and becoming a true moral leader in the global community.

ntodd

(originally posted at Pax Americana)

13 comments:

Mike's America said...

"Newsflash to Ledeen and all the other critics of Code Pink: we are not the sole arbiters of peace, nor must we act or even have an opinion when ever a sparrow falls in every part of the globe."

Thank you for being honest enough to confirm what many of us already knew: you do not stand for peace, but for the handcuffing of the U.S. military which is the only real agent of peace in a world that would be far bloodier and deadlier without it.

Not even ONE WORD from you on the plight of Georgians at the hands of Russian aggressors.

Well, it's not like we expected it anyway. Most of us knew that "pink" was just a code word for RED!

LaFajita said...

There are two things you need to know about the recent fighting in the Caucasus:

1) The Georgians started it.

2) They lost.


Thank you, Gary Brecher (The War Nerd).

Also from Gary:

In [that] part of the world, there is always something to avenge.

CODEPINK said...

Thank you for being honest enough to confirm what many of us already knew: you do not stand for peace

Keep working on that reading comprehension. You'll get it someday, I know you can!

ntodd said...

Oops, sorry, that last Code Pink post was mine. Whatever.

Look forward to the warmongers telling us how our military is going to stop this aggression. And why they support our intervention in Darfur. And the former Yugoslav...oh, wait, that was Clinton's war. Nevermind.

The WordSmith from Nantucket said...
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Mike's America said...

"1) The Georgians started it."

Reflects the typical ignorance of history that one would expect from you clowns.

Russian efforts to subjugate the freedom of the Georgian's goes back to Czarist days. And it's clear from Russia's response that they had planned this episode for a long time.

Once again, the moral inversion of Code Pinkos becomes clear.

The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Look forward to the warmongers telling us how our military is going to stop this aggression. And why they support our intervention in Darfur.

I look forward to seeing how Code Pink plans on telling us how they will prevent any kind of military intervention on our part by clowning themselves up.

And what's their solution to Darfur? Not a peep of concern. When will Code Pink protest against Islamic terrorists and against REAL dictators and brutal regimes? Over five years into Iraq, what the hell are you guys still protesting on about? If you truly want peace, you'd support our military and civilians over there who are actually trying to help innocent Iraqis. Instead, political activism has been given precedence over an honest desire for peace and stability.

LaFajita said...

Instead of discussing among ourselves, let's hear from some Georgians:

A Myth Exploded

ntodd said...

I look forward to seeing how Code Pink plans on telling us how they will prevent any kind of military intervention on our part by clowning themselves up.

I believe there has been some discussion about that. And I look forward to your constructive suggestions of additional tactics.

And what's their solution to Darfur? Not a peep of concern. When will Code Pink protest against Islamic terrorists and against REAL dictators and brutal regimes?

Which part of "the US government is our government" don't you understand? Regardless, Code Pink does do international work with a variety of organizations to resist US military interventions in sovereign nations. Let's get our house in order, then we might be in a moral position to criticize the violence others use.

ntodd said...

political activism has been given precedence over an honest desire for peace and stability.

Political activism is one means to implement our honest desire for peace and stability. We still protest because the best way to not kill people is to not point guns at them, and the best way to support the troops is to bring them home, and the best way to support the Iraqis is to let them have their own damned country back like they want.

Darth T said...

I really like the part where he/she asked if we wanted Medea to go to Georgia and act as a human shield... Yes, please.

Actually, Code Pinko doesn't have to go to Russia to protest Russia's actions. Last time I checked there are these things called embassies.

Darth T said...

Hey lafajita,

The same applies to Iraq. Saddam started it, he lost. Now are you going to quit beating that horse?

ntodd said...

Last time I checked there are these things called embassies.

And guess what: people are protesting there. I'm sure you've joined in, too!